In my continued effort to make this whole Sam Adams scandal thing as palatable (and un-depressing) as possible, I present you with my three arguments why all the haters out there need to shut the fuck up….
I think this whole scandal has been perpetrated by Sam and Gaycondo
to distract us from your lack of pics of this BEARD you’re growing.
Okay, so maybe I AM a conspiracy nut!
this is pretty funny jon. i can totally hear your voice coming out of that cartoon man.
HAH! This COULD GO VIRAL!!!!!!
Jon. I would like to think that if I was homophobic or too prudish you would have let me know by now. What I am is someone who volunteers with youths. As mayor, Adams is in charge of the city of Portland, including its school system. If on a school visit he met some, went on a date with that person, discoved the person was only 17, decided not have sex with said person bt kept in contact in a non-professional manner, and then when this person turned 18 they would then have sex. I would not be allowed near the kids I work with if I did if I did the same thing Adams did and for good reason. It hurts me that gaycondo would make fun of and condone such a serious issue.
Bill, I understand where you are coming from to a degree. I also work with kids and would never do that, and would also be fired if I did the same thing. HOWEVER. It is NOT Sam Adams job to work with kids- while he may be around youth at some time or another, it is by no means his primary job, which is (ahem) governing our fair city. The youth in question was not someone Sam worked with, as has already been established. This has also not been established as a pattern in Sam’s life, and as far as we know this is the only time it’s happened.
And while it would be highly inappropriate for someone who works with kids to date a youth they met on the job, it’s not necessarily inappropriate to date a youth you meet in some other capacity. It’s skeezy, for sure, but as Jon said, 18 is the age we as a society have decided a person is an adult and can consent to sex. So there’s nothing illegal about it, it’s just kind of icky. I’d also like to point out that Beau Breedlove’s boyfriend that pressured him into coming out over this is also 15 years older than Breedlove, so this is a young man who HAS made a pattern of dating far older men. And that’s fine, because he’s an adult and he can make that choice.
Re semi anonymous friend
Adams met the young gentleman while they were both attending a work function (such as visiting a school would be in his capsity as mayor but in this case working/visiting for work the Oregon Capital) in which Adams would very well be considered an authority figure and the young man would be an underling (and intern is also a quasi student capasity). Part of the mayor’s duties of running this city involves running the school system so his contact and conduct with 17 year olds is definitely fair game. Adams admitted to The Oregonian that his relationship with the 17-year old was not a professional one and more akin to dating. Even if they did not have sex, the facts as Adams himself admits to crosses an ethical and professional line that a mayor should not cross. One time is enough to demand his resignation.
I do not consider seeing a 17-year old in a less than professional manner by an adult to be in anyway, even if they met randomly on the street, as an exeptable or excusible act for the mayor of Portland, and again Adams has admitted to these vary facts.
As to questioning the youth I consider him a victum to this and Adams should have known better than to stay in contact with a known 17 year old regardless of the youths advances. As for the victums motives for dating other older men it could well be asked where he learned to do such things in tandem to your point.
Since you work with kids, please explain why it would be acceptable or excusible for an adult city employee to admit to going on a date with a 17 year-old than; then remaining in contact with said person, even having the kid visit the employee at city hall to celebrate 1st Thursday; then sleep with said victum when they were 18. It is not icky, it is unacceptable and should be punished by demanding his resignation. All this can be found in The Oregonian where Adams freely admitted to said actions.
I guess anonymous, what is your opinion of the relationship, that while not including sex, Adams had with the youth while the youth was known to Adams as being 17-years of age? I would not care about this if the youth was 18-years old when he met Adams, but that is not what happened.
Kudos on the cartoon. It sums it all up pretty well, in my humble opinion. I do personally hope Portlanders can get pass this. And still respect Mayor Sam Adams. I mean, doesn’t the whole Clinton-Lewinsky thing come to mind? He blatantly lied, and we still love Bill (well, I wouldn’t say I love him, but it seems like he’s still a highly-regarded personage in the world.)
In this divided society that right wingers always try to dominate, (even in Portland) information can be so slanted by the media and gossip columnists that a person’s true story will never be completely represented. In cases like this, I look at the intentions that our mayor has had from the beginning and still does- you know, issues that actually concern me as a Portland citizen. He is a good man regardless of his sexuality and the fact that he slept with an 18 year old is his own fucking business. People can believe what they want but my feelings are that he is being ripped apart by Republican run mediums such as Fox News , SOME Christian organizations- like people that run the 700 club as well as certain evangelists, and a bunch of ignorant people with nothing better to do than categorize people and spread their hate.
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